apple stops xserve!!!

loccoliv · Knows DNS is the answer Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

what about the certifications????

loccoliv · Knows DNS is the answer Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 32

look forward the ipad 2 feat. fiberchannel adapter & xsan3.0 Smile

nrausch · Xsan Master Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 202

“Xserve is the result of listening to our customers,” said Steve Jobs

They have to have something amazing planned!!

Not just "Use a macpro or macmini, I don't know what else to tell you...
The Xserve was just way too practical and useful. We could not have that."
Besides, there's a handy little app for your precious iPad that will run OSX server. That's all anyone needs, right?"

OMG

jsiegers · Could work for Apple Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 41

What about OS X Server?
And then especially Open Directory! We use all kinds implementations with OD. I could hardly imagine Apple would discontinue that.
But then again: Apple does what it wants.

I hate it that we're so dependent upon one company.

aaron · Site Admin Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 405

OS X Server is sticking around. Don't panic please.
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elijahbuck · fully protected Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 12

Ahhh, so that's why Apple needs to double the floor space of their North Carolina Data Center.

Tim Burton · Xsan Master Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 260

My bet is we'll be seeing a new MacPro Q1/2 next year, which will be smaller with a factory option for an elegant rack kit.

Not sure how many of you have poked around inside the HP Z800? Has a design that feels very mac pro inside, but has modular pull out PSU etc. If they went down this design they could offer dual PSU as a BTO option for the Mac Pro.

Doubt we'll be seeing a DL380 or X3650 painted silver anytime soon.

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ravi · Xsan Master Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 149

jlungaro · fully protected Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 11

Hope that Apple enterprise will live on

ncaplin · JBOD Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Posts: 1

I'm a technology manager at a Fortune 200 company. We use Xsan, OS X Server, QTSS, Final Cut Studio (15 workstations).

We just budgeted about $80K for 2011 for new Xserve, Xsan, and Final Cut Server. This news has me very seriously considering changing those plans.

You may say that Apple remains committed to OS X Server, Xsan, etc., but AFIK, that was Apple's stated position on Xserve until today when it wasn't. This is a matter of trust. And Apple has consistently betrayed that trust in recent years when it comes to issues that concern enterprise customers:

1. There has been no significant progress on Final Cut Pro in almost 5 years. It's still 32-bit, modal, and renders not noticeably faster on a 12-core Westmere Mac Pro with 32GB RAM than on a 2-core MacBook Pro of similar clock speed.

2. Apple has pulled out of NAB and MacWorld Expo in recent years, raising questions about its commitment to the professional creative market.

3. Apple has deprecated QuickTime Pro in favor of QuickTime X, which doesn't have the features pros need (Export options, etc.)

4. Apple hasn't updated Xsan significantly for years.

5. Apple discontinued its own Xserve RAID product. Sure, third party hardware alternatives exist (good ones, too), but we know Apple's stance on third-party computers running Mac OS (Power Computing debacle).

6. No IT track at WWDC 2010.

In nutshell, to regain our trust, Apple needs to communicate better with us. Tell us the roadmap, the reasons for this decision. Don't leave us hanging in the wind wondering when the rug will be pulled out from under us.

mark raudonis · Xsan Master Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 123

I've been X-SAN's biggest fan, all the way back to the Beta version, but I can only perceive this move as a full on retreat from anything even remotely "enterprise capable".

Announcing the end of one product is business as usual. NOT announcing a viable alternative is signaling a SIGNIFICANT change in direction for the company. To quote Bob Dylan, "you don't need to be a Weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing".

mborsten · JBOD Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 4

Why don't we all, instead of thinking the worst, hope for Apple to blow us away with new products that open up new possibilities for whatever we are all doing. At the moment, all we can do is speculate, so let's speculate about what this could mean in a positive way. Change can be very scary, especially the way Apple usually does this, but I hope that, a year from now, we are all playing with new technologies from Apple that we did not expect today.

aaron · Site Admin Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 405

Let's try to keep this discussion professional and constructive, folks. I've deleted one comment that did not meet that standard.
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abstractrude · Xsan Master Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 861

Here is the thing about apple. You get most of what you want. Then they take it away. They make a great product for a time then they go on to the next thing. Which is fine. EXCEPT when you're dealing with platforms. (final cut/xsan) (mac/creative environments)

For example. Ipod mini was best selling ipod ever and they killed it and everyone called them crazy. Its fine because its an ipod and they replaced with a better product. "Product" is key here.

Now with xserve raid they build a great product and kill it. As everyone knows here these things are everywhere because you cant just go out an buy an xserve raid nano product. I know entire televisions shows on TV right now that are made exclusively on xserve raid. because of platform.

You're (business) invested in a platform. That platform requires rack equipment. Apple looks at everything through perspective of product when sometimes its platform. The point of this post is that the xserve was there because its part of the platform and it had to exist. Who cares if it doesn't sell a lot, it doesn't need to.

My only wish is that apple would spin their server hardware off to oracle or something to build boxes like way back in the day when other companies were building apple server and apple provided the software. Or maybe ill go pickup the xserve nano pad.

The way I have always looked at apple is you get most of what you want. But now I have racks with Mac Pros? Too bad. You think apple would now have the resources to make xserve 2 or something even better. The truth is Apple hasn't been very good at being a big company. IMHO apple blew it today. big time. not because they killed a product, because they are starting to kill a platform

beauh · JBOD Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 1

It seems to me that this is completely at odds with a vast majority of Xsan an OS X server solutions out there... To say that the loss of Xserve's will not impact Xsan or OS X server seems short sited: I personally have performed a large number of such installs that never would have been purchased without a rack-mountable, LOM-capable, server infrastructure to support it.

While I'll take your word for it that you intend to continue to develop the software, the truth of the matter is that an OSXS/Xsan solution just got a whole heckuva lot less attractive: I don't see how that could possibly NOT impact either Xsan or OSXS down the road unless a viable, enterprise-friendly replacement becomes available (but if that's really coming, why not wait to discontinue the Xserve until then?).

This is a sad day for OS X server/integration specialists who found their niche in the enterprise space...