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Goodbye Final Cut Server

JonThompson's picture

It appears that the FCS page on Apple's site redirects to FCP, and it is no longer available in the store.

abstractrude's picture

Important Information about Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server

Effective June 21, 2011, Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server have reached end of life. Resellers may return any unsold inventory to Apple. If resellers opt to return unsold inventory, it will not count against the reseller return cap. See standard policies and procedures regarding returns for more information.

-Trevor Carlson
THUMBWAR

nrausch's picture

So... who has the best idea for a replacement asset management system, with a very similar feature set, and equal ease of use?

That is terrible news.

Also, does anyone know if FCPX will be compatible with Final Cut Server 1.5.2?

handygeek's picture

nrausch wrote:
So... who has the best idea for a replacement asset management system, with a very similar feature set, and equal ease of use?

That is terrible news.

Also, does anyone know if FCPX will be compatible with Final Cut Server 1.5.2?/quote

There is no reason to think so. There is no XML support and Final Cut Pro X is Core Data-based. If anything, Apple might allow for third-party Core Data add-ons to interface, but to miss all of that metadata entered into Final Cut Server is another FUBAR brought to you by Apple.

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HandyGeek
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matx's picture

nrausch wrote:
So... who has the best idea for a replacement asset management system, with a very similar feature set, and equal ease /quote

I hear CatDV is exellent.

Also, another one to look out for is "strawberry" which is owned by Rorke now, or they're working with the developers. Seems pretty cool.

matx's picture

abstractrude wrote:
Important Information about Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server

Effective June 21, 2011, Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server have reached end of life./quote

Where did you get that? Email? Web site?

Allynn's picture

matx wrote:
nrausch wrote:
So... who has the best idea for a replacement asset management system, with a very similar feature set, and equal ease /quote

I hear CatDV is exellent.

Also, another one to look out for is "strawberry" which is owned by Rorke now, or they're working with the developers. Seems pretty cool./quote

But if HandyGeek is right and there is no XML in FCP X then I don't think either of these solutions will work. I've just been to the CatDV page and it looks XML based to me. At the very least I wouldn't look at anything seriously until FCP X is out there for a little while.

I'm crushed :cry:
For all the problems I've had with the FC Server, I really, really did love it. It solved more problems than it created. I've been watching Larry Jordan's excellent tutorials on FCP X and, while it has some great metadata tools, it's not multi-editor friendly out of the box.

Of course, we can stick to FCP 7 (or even run FCP 7 and FCP X on the same machine) but sooner or later we're going to have "upgrade".

abstractrude's picture

Quote:
Where did you get that? Email? Web site?/quote
got it this morning through ASW email. ill post the whole thing.

pple Announces Final Cut Pro X

Apple announced Final Cut Pro X, a revolutionary new version of its professional video editing application. Final Cut Pro X is a 64-bit app that takes full advantage of the latest Mac hardware and software for superb performance.

Final Cut Pro X also includes powerful tools for audio editing and color correction, and is complemented by Motion 5 for professional motion graphics and Compressor 4 for advanced media encoding.

All three apps are available on the Mac App Store: Final Cut Pro X for $299.99, and Motion 5 and Compressor 4 for $49.99 each. Volume licensing information will be available at a later date.

Visit the Final Cut Pro Sales Resource Page on Apple Sales Web for First Looks and a Product Presentation.

Final Cut Pro Sales Resource Page
Important Information about Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server

Effective June 21, 2011, Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Server have reached end of life. Resellers may return any unsold inventory to Apple. If resellers opt to return unsold inventory, it will not count against the reseller return cap. See standard policies and procedures regarding returns for more information.

-Trevor Carlson
THUMBWAR

abstractrude's picture

i Think final cut pro x will get more features over the next year... nobody should be upgrading right away anyway

-Trevor Carlson
THUMBWAR

handygeek's picture

abstractrude wrote:
i Think final cut pro x will get more features over the next year... nobody should be upgrading right away anyway/quote

I do agree. However, my problem is a little more high-level. Here's what the brass sees, which I cannot at all ignore. Apple discontinued Xserve RAID, subsequently discontinued their server hardware, subsequently discontinued Final Cut Server. What's left for the enterprise to compel them to stick with Apple? Answer - XSAN. That one piece of the equation is like duct tape keeping a rusted car from falling apart. It won't hold for long. At this point, I'm just biding my time for the other shoe to drop. I can't plan future growth and product development on an EOL platform. XSAN alone isn't enough, I'm afraid.

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HandyGeek
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abstractrude's picture

Quote:
I do agree. However, my problem is a little more high-level. Here's what the brass sees, which I cannot at all ignore. Apple discontinued Xserve RAID, subsequently discontinued their server hardware, subsequently discontinued Final Cut Server. What's left for the enterprise to compel them to stick with Apple? Answer - XSAN. That one piece of the equation is like duct tape keeping a rusted car from falling apart. It won't hold for long. At this point, I'm just biding my time for the other shoe to drop. I can't plan future growth and product development on an EOL platform. XSAN alone isn't enough, I'm afraid./quote

This doesn't make sense to me.There are a ton of tools to use on os x. Why would final cut server going away keep you from using os x?

-Trevor Carlson
THUMBWAR

beskone's picture

I hated FCP server,

We installed it along with Apple Enterprise at a MAJOR entertainment company and the users just could never get motivated to use it, it basically sat with a huge custom build out for 2 years doing nothing.

It was everything I hated about interface design and non intuitive features, but that's just me.

What bugs me more is how this same company is going to want to have us install 100+ copies of FCP X... but guess what? since there's no physical media - am I going to make 100 iTunes accounts for the editors so I can upgrade them? Same with Lion.

Not workable in an enterprise environment at all. :(

Rupert Watson's picture

beskone wrote:

What bugs me more is how this same company is going to want to have us install 100+ copies of FCP X... but guess what? since there's no physical media - am I going to make 100 iTunes accounts for the editors so I can upgrade them? Same with Lion.

Not workable in an enterprise environment at all. :(/quote

I think you will be able to get Volume Licensing for FCP in the same way as before.

Rupert Watson's picture

abstractrude wrote:
Quote:
Why would final cut server going away keep you from using os x?/quote/quote

I think it's the serial lack of concern for the "enterprise" customer that is the issue. Bosses get a bit peeved about suppliers not giving a flying **** about their businesses. They are funny like that.

MattG's picture

There are those of us who, after several noble attempts to integrate FCSvr's FCP project management features into our clients' workflows, simply abandoned that part of it (along with annotations, productions and edit proxies).

What has been useful will still be useful to our customers no matter what NLE they use: simple raw asset management, age-based archiving for admin-free maintenance of free space on their shared storage, and most importantly, end-of-process deliverable file creation and distribution, along with manicured metadata. That was always the software's power and will continue to be for our customers who use it.

For goodness' sake, there are folks who still use Artbox for what [i]it/i was good for: still image management and delivery, who wouldn't think of replacing it with an alternative because it works for that portion of their workflow.

We believe that FCSvr will continue to provide that glue for our customers. Sure, we doubt we'll be implementing many more of them going forward, but when it comes time to migrate our clients to the "next best thing" (and CatDV is not the next best thing for [i]every/i workflow), we will poke into the postgres back end, suck all the metadata out with a few custom scripts, and land them into this new system with little effort.

I don't think anyone will (or should) complain that they had trouble literally getting out of Final Cut Server what they put in to it, and that will be the final grace it provides to those who tried over these last three years to utilize what was good about it for their shop.

abstractrude's picture

big word up.

-Trevor Carlson
THUMBWAR

ACSA's picture

When the XServe was cancelled more and more people were wondering about the rest of the "enterprise" products....Well it proves: Apple is not an Enterprise supplier... It is a consumer supplier... And this sucks, big time....

(Even more happy that I can make a living as an iOS developer....... But will for sure start learning other languages as well. Betting on 1 horse is proving to be an ass......... :evil: )

Tim Burton's picture

Well back end of FCPX is looking very like iOS apps, Core Data etc. Personally quite exciting by it.

However if I had some spare money I'd be shorting Avid stocks.